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Started by #460385 [Ignore] 06,Dec,15 22:37
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...was made at a plant in Tennessee, largely from parts manufactured elsewhere in America. In fact, the US is the world's leading manufacturer of automobiles.(1)
> >"that you fill up with fuel that's not ours."< <
America is the worlds largest producer of petroleum and natural gas, most of which is consumed domestically, and has been for years now.(2)
> >"Does it piss you off that the clothes you buy are made from cotton we didn't grow."< <
The US is the worlds 3rd largest producer and exporter of cotton (some of which returns as finished goods), which is one of the most water-intensive agricultural crops and is heavily subsidized, here, so it's probably for the better that we don't do more.(3)
> > "Are you even aware that your electronics and sneakers are made in a foreign country."< <
The US is inextricably part of a global economy which exchanges goods and services, the flow of which is measured in a statistic known as the GDP (Gross Domestic Product). The US is the worlds largest GDP -- by FAR -- and has been for decades.(4)
> >"Do you ever realize that the only thing you can buy "Made In America" at Wal-Mart is in the lawn and garden department."< <
Objectively not true and not worth further comment.
> >"Are you scared to fly the American flag in your front yard cause you don't want to offend your neighbors. Are you even aware that our kids are no longer saying the Pledge of Allegiance in school. It's not too late to make a difference. Just a thought."< <
Franky, I'd say this would be well served by a great deal more thought, preferably with a healthier dose of facts.
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Facts mean nothing to many people. Those who do not heed or learn from the mistakes of history are bound to repeat them.
One example of that can be seen in 1930`s Germany when the more astute citizens warned their fellow citizens of the possible future results of their choices, the history books show those results of their failing to heed.
We can produce irrefutable evidence but all it takes is a few do-gooders or dreamers with agendas to render it all in vain.
Here in South Oz our once wealthy state has been bankrupted by inept politicians, the more astute citizens warned it would happen if particular politicians were elected. We see that happening now in the US.
The world is top heavy with idiots, just worry about your personal situation and keep the Confederate flag flying high and proud. It is the best we can do.
#makeamericaracistagain
U.S soldiers didn't die under that flag...CONFEDERATE soldiers did. (Remember, the Confederate States wanted to form their own government apart from the United States. Secession was one of the reasons the Civil War was fought. Because of this, Confederate soldiers were NOT U.S. citizens...by their own choice...when they fought and died under that flag.) It is the flag of an enemy nation. An enemy nation that LOST...and should really have gotten over it by now.
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The Civil War is what shaped and started this country. Look at the Articles that came out of that War that we still live by today. Regardless what side was right or wrong. The living relatives should have the right to fly the Confederate flag in the honor of their ancestors who gave their life. Black or white.
He didn't shoot them because he was gay. He shot them because he was crazy. (Because only crazy people shoot other people for any other reason than self defense.)
As usual, you totally missed the point of my post (all that "mumble jumble" must be confusing.) It's not "over thinking", Bubba...it's just THINKING. Ya'll seem to forget that one of the things the Confederacy "faught" for was...wait for it...the right to own other people. (The same people who might, just maybe, view the flag that represents those who fought for the right to own them as a hateful symbol.)
The rebels...who turned traitor against their own country and killed U.S. citizens (those who remained loyal to the United States)...died as traitors. The South was beaten, defeated by the Union. They were enemy combatants, who flew a traitorous flag. They should not be honored or celebrated, but remembered for the traitors that they were. Americans fly the American flag, not the banner of a defeated enemy.
For the record, the REVOLUTIONARY WAR is what shaped and started this country. The Civil War happened quite a few years later. Don't under think it, dude.
The Confederates fought AGAINST the United States and its ideals of freedom and equality, in order to preserve the institution of slavery. There is no justification for its veneration.
The symbols of the Confederacy rightly offend the descendants of those it oppressed and opposed, and those who sympathized with them.
Not many but enough blacks fought in the civil war on both sides that their lives should not be forgotten either. But Blacks are the first to disregard them when they look at the flag and only see the "white" side of it. History is there to read. And sadly most folks don't.
For a guy who voices his strong opinions here so often, you've got really thin skin when folks don't agree with you.
No one called you a racist. We were just pointing out how some people might (justifiably) see that flag as a symbol of racism.
One side is that of a group of people who feel the flag represents segregation, slavery, oppression and racism.
The other side is a group of people who just don't care how the first group feels. (Which, in and of itself, is a continuation of the exact ideals the flag represents.)
The real shame is that you are "aware of what took place" but still choose to ignore it.
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Hell in 1860 one of the largest slave owners in North Carolina was William Ellison. A free negroe who was one of the largest land owners and cotton growers. His estimated worth of slaves was $300,000 at one time. Oh yeah, he was a former slave himself. Now go ahead and tag that racism.
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In Louisiana. C.Richards a free negroe woman who owned a sugar plantation owned 152 slaves.
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Justus Angel and L.Horry of South Carolina both free negroe land owners each owned 84 slaves.
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In Louisiana in 1860 there were 3,000 free negroes all owning slaves. That accounted for 28% of the population. This was all pre Civil War.
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I guess these are the kind of facts they leave out of the history books to fuel the propaganda of this country.
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I've heard of discrimination againt your own Race. But never racism against your own Race.
"Propaganda"? Are you saying that slavery and racism don't exist and, like FOX "news", we just made a bunch of crap up in order to lead people astray? (Speaking of propaganda, your original post says: "Are you even aware that our kids are no longer saying the Pledge of Allegiance in school." Which is a deliberate manipulation of the truth. Many schools all over the country have the students say the Pledge on a daily basis. Some of them even leave out the "under God" part...so that ALL students can feel represented in the ritual.)
The fact that people of all colors were enslaved doesn't even things out, make slavery okay, or invalidate racism.
I never said that the Civil War was fought over racism. I said that the rebel flag has come to be a symbol of racism. Because of the millions of racists who have adopted it as their banner. I am not the reason that people associate that flag with racism. The racists who wave it are the reason.
General Lee was the man that said it was inhuman to free the slaves until they were educated to read and write and learn a trade for self support. Folks need to read history.
Honestly people couldn't sound any more stupid then when they are trying to defend racist confederate battle flag.
Really I can not comprehend why you would feel the need to try and defend dead people that fought to keep practices that are morally wrong. Unless your position is pro-slavery. And I hope that's not the case. So why not just accept the fact that your ancestry had some jackasses in it, and recognize, that who they were, doesn't need to effect who you are.
Also get rid of that tacky flag.
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And if you want my flag down. #comegetit
And if you've genuinely got a problem with genuine Americans being overworked and underpaid, while a member of the master class sits back and reaps the fruits of their labor. There's a candidate for that. His name is Bernie MutherFuckin Sanders. He's pro middle class, anti 1%, pro union, anti unchecked capitalist system, and pro government transparency.
As far as the being suspicious of your government goes, that's just perfectly normal paranoia everyone has that. And it tends to swing in the direction of whichever political camp you're in and the political party of the current president. Here's some data from Gallup to prove my point: [deleted image]
The truth is the government hasn't tried to take any of your rights. Isn't going to try to. And wouldn't benefit from doing that. The problem in reality is that your government doesn't represent the American people, because of "citizens united" and because the American people haven't done anything to stop lobbyists and money within Americas political systems.
And I don't have to come get your flag it'll just turn to dust and be etched into the footnotes of history like the ideas that spawned it.
So to say that ALL confederates fought for slavery is just liberal spin to further de-eductate the young people of America.
Another factoid that is not widely broadcast is the yankees were dropping dead from Syphilis like flys. It was written in 1 book had the confederates been able to hold out a bit longer Syphilis would killed off most of the yankee army. Raping southern farmers wives, and cattle got the best of them.
The General Lee battle flag ? the one on the Dukes of Hazzard car ?
You are protected under your constitution to fly the flag...
Just know that when you fly that flag it represents white supremacy,whether you like it or not...
As most slaves were black it represents to black people nothing but white power,regardless of whether blacks owned blacks during slavery.
But the battle flag is the 1 **** was shed under. That is why most of us fly the battle flag.Ancestors **** was shed beneath it and we are sick of liberal historians trying to cover up our heritage with accusations of hatred .
And just a note, the Swastika,is part of our American Indian heritage they have had to hide for many years now due to 1 asshole in Germany misusing it.
But at the same token, I do not expect the German descendants to be forced to forget and **** their ancestors for what they stood for,right or wrong. And trust me it was wrong. But brainwashing,and just plain fear,will **** a man to do things he may not do otherwise.
I have both German,American Indian,and Confederate ancestry. And I will be damned if I will be forced to forget any of them.
The flag means different things to different people...
The flag was used to commemorate the fallen until the civil rights movement,when certain groups started to fly the flag as symbol against integration of blacks into schools etc...
So blame the white supremacists for making that flag the symbol it is today...
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