"But it's a dry heat!"
Arizona is hot,dry as a popcorn fart and does not even allow people to have anything on their property that holds water from rain.
been that way for a while.

Must have been talking about this maybe?
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Soil can also influence climate on a smaller scale. Soils that are wetter or denser hold heat and stabilize the surroundings from temperature changes more so than drier, looser soils. The temperature in deserts may increase by more than 60°F during the course of a day.

Soils and Climate
Soil Science Society of America
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very true, alot of "gimmicks" on the car that really do nothing but "wow" people
Did you try the self drive?
I have found a situation where the self drive or at least assisted driving is a good thing.
A friends daughter has Pots.
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So her husband chose to buy a Tesla for their new car and there is a way to program different "modes" for driving.
He programmed in a " Casey" mode,her name, when she drives, if she lets go of the wheel for more than like 2 seconds, the car starts talking" Casey,are you ok?" and then buzzers go off and the car slows down and the flasher turn on, if no response it pulls it's self over to the side of the road and stops.

I have a family member that has duel motored 3, the acceleration in blistering, I liken it to the pull back you get in a commercial air liner on take off & it just doesn't quit, no gear change, ya can here the motors winding up, its quite a different experience.

You can unlock more power but in AU its 10k same price as unlocking the auto drive, so that's all not unlocked in theirs's either.

Has some little nic nac features, well heaps of them, like you can make the horn many of the std sounds or you can upload one into the car. I tried to convince then to load in a machine gun mp3, they wouldn't be in it, but if it was mine it would be the first thing I would do 😁

A while back auto steer was unlocked for free, it works ok but you have to keep engaging with the steering wheel from time to time, its a bit annoying really I find holding onto the wheel a better option.

Auto pilot over here can only work on highways, I believe in America & Europe it works every where, I might not be correct on that.

One really cool feature of it, using your app in a shopping center, you can have the car come to you, that would be pretty cool

I didn't get in it but I just got back from a family shindig and a couple had their new Y there, burgundy with the 1000 dollar optional white interior. Not leather or vinal, some other material he said has held up on their other tesla for 7 years just fine.
He told me about how it has seat and steering and mirror settings programmed for him and his wife. If they have the dog with them and need to go in a store,it has "pet mode" where the screen says "I am fine,it is xx degrees in here".
Also has a "keep" mode for keeping your grocerys from getting to hot as you run other errands. It still has it's temp tag and he has the self drive for 30 days free.8000 dollar option to leave it on. He turned it on, and a few miles down the road it made a panic stop for a car crossing a 1/4 mile ahead of him,so he turned it off.
said he would not buy it.
Alot of thought went into the design for sure.

Well, at least you would have done ONE thing to help the environment. But, we know you don't give a fart about the environment.

Now you have to plant two trees, phart

Ameliorating climate change vs making parks from Uranium mines?
I don't understand what you're trying to argue.

Why bother? A 'national park' is not a park for people, but for nature.
Almost all wild animals are turning into 'endangered species'.

If the radiation is gone and there's no other pollution, it's a better solution to rewild it,
than to leave a fucking dead hole in the ground. It could be a lake with high biodiversity.
It might even be a start to turning that desert green. Weren't you supporting the Republican 'plan' to plant 1 trillion trees? Is it in Project 2025?

1 Trillion trees won't all fit in your backyard.
It entails at least turning all deserts into forests.

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Sure, many liberals think the world is saved with electric cars and nuclear power.
That's escapism too. Electric cars won't help much against climate change,
but it saves the car. It's a solution from Elon Musk... Take a hint!

Nuclear power is exchanging a current crisis for a future crisis.
Nuclear power isn't that 'green' and it is very expensive.
Solar, wind, water, geothermal and even bio-fuels are all better alternatives.
Those are all actually renewable. Uranium is still a fossil fuel. Gone is gone.
You cannot recycle uranium, but end up with highly radioactive waste for 100,000 years.

You're America! Any time someone wants to do something good,
there are lots of selfish assholes gearing up to scam them.

By the way, as of January 2024, there are 11,091 solar panel installation companies
in the US. There are 514 Solar Power businesses in the US as of 2023,
an increase of 22.8% from 2022. Those 'government handouts' are working.

How about those 'government handouts' from Trump?
Seen any money back from the PPP loans? Did they not fire people?
Did the 6 TRILLION DOLLARS he pumped into the stock market help you?

'Government handouts' are mostly a Republican thing, you just don't think so,
because the handouts go to wealthy people and never to the people who need it
or to goals that would actually Make America Great Again. They are LYING to you!

Hey phart & Ananas2xLekker 🙋‍♀️

Trust me guys not having a go at either of you, I consider both of you to be my friends I just wanted to chuck my 2 cents worth in for the hell of it

Phart mate, caught my attention mentioning something of Australia, just to correct you on something, the "Kakadu National Park" up in the NT was a national park prior to the mine opening up, funnily enough about a year prior to the mine opening with a deal stuck with the "traditional landowners" to allow the mine to open up, it was all about money & very controversial, it was a common thing to hear about this mine through its operations in local (Australian) news broadcasts through the period of operation , local bands like "Midnight Oil" wrote songs about it in the past & so forth, it is unlikely if the traditional land owners were not involved & the park was owned by the state alone, chances are the mine would not have existed. The traditional landowners of this country take tittle to many lands within Australia causing trouble to obtain FREE money, from well, basically the white taxpayers of this country, sounds raciest, well maybe it is, even some local parks & councils, like council chambers & stuff they have taken claim to its all about getting money for FREE, so they can lease back, its a big problem.

Like I have said & mentioned many times, if the Dutch or Chinese colonized the country, there would be no traditional land owner problem, they all would have been shot on cocolonization bit over 200 years ago, its called genocide these days, but way back when I like to call it conquering nations, but we were colonized by the British, they liked to fuck little black girls 🤷‍♀️

Now for you my Dutch mate, as far as I understand, humans have 2 basic ways to generate power/energy

1. Turn a turbine:
Typically done with some type of boiler system, more or less heating water & harnessing its energy, there are other ways of course like wind farming that uses the power of wind to turn a turbine & Hydra also using the force of flow of water to turn a turbine, they would be the most common I would imagine, there would be others I am sure. Oh & nuclear to basically boil water, how could I forget that 🤭

2. Harnessing the suns solar energy:
So catching that energy via solar panels & chucking it into a grid or storing it in batteries for use later on, in Australia particularly in the state I live in ya can chuck some panels up on ya roof, heavily subsidized by the state government, typically these systems do not have the capability of storage, so the idea is, while your panels are being energized & you don't use all the power, the excess gets shoved into the grid, you get a subsidy for that, then once the sun goes down you have to pay to get the power back at a higher price then what you sold it for, but typically efficiently set up solar paneled household have a minimal bill at the end of the month, depending on how big your system is you may get a small refund although usually unlikely.

There are higher grades of this types of system, Tesla as one example, so you have a lithium storage bank set up beside your house, so you store your own power to use while the sun is not shinning, its my guess, I don't know the fundamentals of this type of system, but I would imagine once the storage bank is full, excess power would be bleed off & be shoved back into the grid which you would be paid for, however these types of systems are much more expensive & the government subsidy would fall well short of set up costs.

Also mate something I have picked up on. You have mentioned it a few times now that a EPV is not going to save the world it will save the automobile, your opinion on this matter I believe is 100% correct, in many countries like mine there is a target of 0 emissions & part of that is to can the internal combustion engine vehicle, sold new at some point/year, like phart I think evolving hybrid tec is a better option, perhaps using a hydrogen powered powered plant to produce power to energize the batteries carried on board & why not advance solar tec so your car look like a regular painted car so it is capturing the suns energy to change the power cells so the engine has less work to, I have a G Shock watch for example that uses solar energy to power the batteries, the solar panel is part of the glass watch face, not like solar powered watches from yesteryear, where a small solar panel was visible, why not use this technology in the windshield & rear shield of a modern modern Hybrid vehicle, most of which are driven during the daylight hours & cuck a few wind turbines in the front grill of that car to assist in power generation lessening the time the engine needs to be on to power the batteries, creatin les co2.

Australia has one of the lowest C02 emotions in the world, whey you might ask, we don't produce anything any more, well very little at all, we used to manufacture & build cars, the last of those were Holden(Chev), Ford & Toyota, no longer that's been gone for quite a few years now, we no longer produce a single car in this country, so the pollution created form this is somewhere else in the world. Our fords seem to be European, our holdens (Chev) appear to be American or maybe European as what is commonly known as the Commodore was originally formed from a European Opal.

Australia has many natural stocks & recourses, Uranium coal & iron (mostly), we export much Coal for example bringing the country billions of dollars, even though we not burning much of the stuff ourselves, converting for burning of natural gas to turn turbines, we send our coal to countries that do burn it to produce power, so although we have a low carbon footprint, we are allowing other countries to accelerate theirs's with our exports & the profit we make from it.

We have huge iron stocks, we used to produce our own steel, that ceased many years ago & our foundries shut down reducing our carbon footprint, instead we ship our ore to China, they send it back as steel & why because simply put its cheaper.

At the end of the day we have a low carbon foot print in this country, the main reason for that is we no longer manufacture fuck all, all our manufacturing is done in China, their caron foot print continues to climb, it is of no wonder why, we still produce a ugly carbon footprint, not seen here because we have moved it it China mostly 🤷‍♀️

The world at the end of the day needs less high level consumers, much like myself, Phart is a true environmentalist (even though he doesn't even know it), his actual carbon foot print on the world would be minimal, not even a drop in the ocean as far as I understand the way the guy lives 🤷‍♀️

That lake can do that 1 time and add 5% that year, to the other 95%, which is emitted
by cows. So yes, we have to worry about cow farts.

It's not a bad idea to use the methane for electricity, but if that releases the CO2,
that's not a good idea. They could use that CO2 rich water to farm algae.
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I have seen The Day After Tomorrow. I think the air coming down from space at those freezing temperatures is a bit far fetched, but the Thermohaline circulation (THC) is said to be affected by climate change. That makes certain place (nearer to the equators)
in the world heat up faster, while other places (nearer to the poles) are getting cooler.

I'm at the end of the Gulf Stream in Europe. If that Gulf Stream goes away, it will be significantly cooler in Europe than in South and North America, but we would still have
the same levels of CO2 and CH4, so I'm sure it wouldn't get to an Ice Age.

Yea, I saw that movie in the theater
Notice mexico didn't like the US crossing the border either!
There has already been a ice age here. the movie was far fetched but entertaining to some degree.
The Village was another 1 I saw in the theater and that movie could have had a good plot, but they wasted it,