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The Earth is a LIVING BEING, much like our bodies, but on a much larger scale!
She is a dynamic BEING, and has survived Billions of years of problems!!
Humans, are like "Jock Itch" to the Earth Mother!! LOL!!
She will adapt, and maybe that means more plagues, like COVID, or others, to keep us from overwhelming Her!
Strange how people that say, "trust the science" can't grasp what is visible by telescope of other planets being swallowed by their "suns" as they go super nova and so on.
None of us are leaving here alive. Enjoy life and quit worrying yourselves to death.
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On top of all this,she is PISSED because someone refered to her as a young lady.
As in does she just want to be called a Bitch or something?
Her points are:
- Fossil Fuel Executives bribe your politicians to do nothing on climate change.
- Climate change is already happening and exceptional storms like that are a sign of that.
- Extreme weather like you have experienced recently are just a sign of more to come.
- It will cost you many billions of dollars in damages each year or trillions of dollars
to upgrade your infrastructure to prevent that from happening each year.
"The best is yet to come!"
As we speak, there are record floods in Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and the south of The Netherlands, that have killed over 60 people so far.
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But I must ask is this the first time those areas have flooded?
The reason I ask is we have areas here that are known as flood plains. The land is only useful for temporary pasture or maybe a quick growing crop or trees for lumber.
But we don't build homes and such in those areas.
Some areas in the big city about 40 miles from here, are starting to have flooding. BUT it is not climate related. It is related to all the home building and paving the ground that would normally take in the water.IF yankees and folks from califoricated would stay the hell out of here, the problems would not come.
like creating more and bigger flood plains. There was a record broken in the flow of the river Meuse.
"Until now, the summer record was held in 1980 and 1911, when approximately 2,000 cubic meters of water per second flowed through the Meuse. Those summer records are broken with another 50 percent extra water. "
"The river Meuse in Limburg reached a record height on Thursday evening, with levels more than 5 meters above normal. A large part of the precipitation that fell in Limburg and the Ardennes now ends up in the river. It is by far the highest summer level in at least a hundred years. It is expected that even the winter records of 1993 and 1995 will be broken, when a flood threatened the Dutch river area."
The worst flood in The Netherlands was in 1953, when the dikes broke and 1836 people drowned. But that's why the Dutch built the most advanced flood control system in the world. Half the country would be under water by now, if we didn't have that.
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"Tomball, Texas, Public Works director David Esquivel told a local paper there this year that the Houston area had “two 500-year storms back to back”: over Memorial Day weekend of 2015 and early April 2016. That means that Hurricane Harvey constitutes the third “500-year” flood in three years."
Our government is making 100 year plans to prevent flooding. They use predictions of the climate change scientists to plan upgrades to the flood control system.
This is a map with predictions on the year 2100 from the Delta commission of 2008. They have needed to update the plans, because the predictions are getting more severe as climate change progresses.
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You have such a close mind. You refuse to even admit that there are changes happening, no matter the cause. You will be like the unicorns. You know why we don't have any unicorns? They didn't believe the flood was coming so they didn't board Noah's ark. Don't be left behind.
Why? Because AOC is trying to bring to the public's attention the projected cost of doing nothing? Maybe she doesn't know how it can be financed, but, it's a start. Why shoot the messenger?
I didn't run for office.and her district is so damn small.IF she is the best they can do, they are REALLY SCREWED>
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To help with climate change.
So let's bring back the Terex, and modify it so all it wants to eat is liberal democrats!
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Who would have thought, that the sun ,might be causing some warmth ?
Please read the whole thing but this is important
"In their insistence on forcing a so-called scientific consensus, the IPCC seems to have decided to consider only those data sets and studies that support their chosen narrative."
The implications, from a policy perspective, are enormous, especially in a field where trillions of dollars are at stake and a dramatic re-organization of the global economy is being proposed
If that happened anytime soon, we would all be royally screwed.
If we do nothing and that asteroid doesn't fall down in the next 100 years,
it doesn't matter anyway, because humanity will already be extinct.
If we prevent the worst of climate change, we will probably survive. We could then also develop the technology to deflect an asteroid long before it ever hits earth.
These things we know can happen,but thanks to some law enforcement hasn't happened large scale yet. But yet so many people are worried about some smoke or something.
However, there is a much higher chance that we will live for another few to several decades. In that period, I'm not worried about climate change getting very uncomfortable, dangerous and expensive, I'm completely sure it will happen. There is however things humanity can do to make the future less uncomfortable, dangerous and expensive. I can't do that myself, I can only join the movement to push the world leaders to act on my behalf. And I know it's not necessary to suffer and sacrifice to reach the goal. It will only take some redirecting of money to employ millions of people for building renewable energy systems. I'm not saying it will be easy, but there is no reason to expect suffering and sacrifice, unless we wait too long.
Bye the way, suffering and sacrifice, that's just your average American job. Europeans don't do that, we just make great stuff and solve serious problems, without breaking a sweat.
I can agree work needs to be done to change some things.But it can't be over night.
and if we are going to solve a problem, find a VIABLE solution. Lithium battery's, oh my, what do we do with them when they go dead?
Wasn't the idea behind new technology to make sure that you could sit back and make great things and solve problems without sweating? Well,there is no free ride, and there are side effects. the pollution that is supposedly going to kill us in 11 years according to saint aoc, is 1 side effect of technology.
That's why I'm so happy with my job of just helping other people make great stuff and using my brain to solve serious problems, without breaking a sweat.
"Wasn't the idea behind new technology to make sure that you could sit back and make great things and solve problems without sweating?"
YES, EXACTLY, so when are we finally allowed to sit back a little?
Most Europeans don't have a 32 hour workweek anymore. 40 hours has become sort of the standard. Some poor sods even work more than that.
It seams like Americans are only working harder and longer and for less comfort. They are truly screwed. It is however mostly self-inflicted by your 'work ethics'.
There is a free ride for the children of rich people. They will never have to pull up their sleeves. You think that's working what they do? Hahahaha, not even by my standards.
It takes a little bit more than 11 years to kill us ALL. The dying has already
been going on a while near the equator, but it's moving upwards (and downwards, don't forget the Ozzies). Americans in Texas are the first to go (some already did), people in Alaska get a lot more time.
AOC was probably referring to the 11 years scientists say is the time left that Climate Change is still reversible. There are several chain reactions at play,
that could make Climate Change irreversible, for a big part, even if humans completely stop emitting CO2 in the air, 11 years from now.
We can prevent the worst if we hurry up and work hard!
(Phooey! Helping people work hard, by solving problems).
You should know by now (Lithium) batteries are not the only option to store energy.
And don't 'dispose' of batteries, just recycle:
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Batteries are just one type of chemical energy storage. Formic acid an hydrogen are two other examples. Hydrogen is just not very efficient for energy storage. Those are the best alternatives to batteries for use in cars, but we also need high capacity storage in the energy grids, to compensate for intermittent energy production of most renewable energy systems. For that there are better principles of storing energy, like Superconducting magnetic energy storage, which acts like a battery, but doesn't work on chemical principle.
Another type is thermal energy storage, like molten salt, which works very well in combination with solar power. Or pumping hot or cold water in a geothermal reservoir and using the thermal energy when it's pumped back up into a basin. That principle can produce and store energy at the same time.
Or kinetic potential energy storage by pumping water back up to the lake of a hydro power plant. Because of water shortage, many hydro power plants don't work at maximum output anyway.
Or pressure energy storage, like using depleted gas wells or deep mines to store air under pressure, which can be turned back into electrical energy at demand.
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So was Homo Erectus cruising the strip in his exhaust belching Ferrari in 2000 BC?
Was Homo Sapien Burning tires to cook Buzzard for supper?
Of course the climate has had changes before, I've told you many times. However not at the speed humanity is causing it.
"This is a relationship that is found in many animals, and even among contemporary humans, but we now know that it was a major driver behind the changes in body size over the last MILLION years."
Earth has been almost completely covered in ice for millions of years, until 650 million years ago. The Eocene, which occurred between 53 and 49 million years ago, was the Earth's warmest temperature period for 100 million years.
Those changes took at least tens of thousands of years, which allowed nature to adapt. During hot periods, tropical rain forests covered the earth up to the poles. Those rain forests absorbed to CO2, which made the temperature slowly decrease again. Unfortunately humanity has destroyed most of the rain forests. If we cause the temperature to go up, faster than it has ever gone up, while having destroyed all forests, the temperature will just keep going up. Nature left to its own devices will always correct eventually, but with humanity starving for food, gutting the remainder of the forests for agriculture, nature will not recover, until we are completely extinct. Maybe the environment will ever again be suitable for life afterwards, without us, maybe not.
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there will be more plastic than fish in the oceans by 2050.
Seven billion dung beetles are killing the cow.
There used to be a lot more to this world than us.
Humans and big agriculture livestock account for 96% of mammal biomass.
Powerless to make that noticeable of a change?
But have you ever noticed how much plastic is around the stuf from the supermarket?
We recycle quite devotedly and collect a large bag every few days.
I have not got much issue with recycling except sometimes good machines and stuff gets hauled away and distroyed for very simple issues. Just as with the the fridge in the kitchen,it stopped cooling as well. We called a fellow out to fix it, 100 bucks for labor and parts.Granted we are having to wait till monday because of the shitty postal service but still,MOST Americans would yank the fridge out,put in a new 1,that cost no less than about 1100 bucks for a decent 1 , and this 1 would be destroyed. 100 dollar problem. What a waste it would be.But that is the way some people operate.Waste and spend.And if you take into account how much emissions comes from the hauling of the old fridge,grinding it up,hauling it again,melting it,and restamping parts and making something else,it would equate to far more energy used by the older design than compared to the new for the same time operated.
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It is beyond fact and fiction. It is a political ideology. When a large group is to be united, political ideology is resorted to. So that harmony can be established in the society.
surely our brains are big enough to see what it right and wrong and not accept this from the leaders of these places. But sadly ... as a whole, humanity accepts destruction as normal, and capitalism is fine!! so long as some rich cunt is making a motza and the rest of us are coughing up lungs from pollution, this is acceptable.. *lix*
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Hypocrites I think is what you could safely call most climate change believers.
Hardly anything is done with out some form of pollution.
You trade 1 type for another.
Coal ash and fumes, ok trade that for a underground storage facility full of nuclear waste leaking into the water table in washington state, or unrecyclable lithium ion battery's to be stored underground for eon's.
There is no free ride..
Sure this is WW2 era stuff leaking NOW,but what will happen to the stuff stored 20 years ago.Or being stored NOW? IF the future is so important, then think first.
Officials say an underground nuclear waste storage tank in Washington state that dates to World War II appears to be leaking contaminated liquid into the ground. ... Tank B-109, the latest suspected of leaking, holds 123,000 gallons (465,000 liters) of radioactive waste.Apr 29, 2021
And folks like you MOVE DOWN HERE so apparently the farts don't smell that bad to ye
There are just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global CO2 emissions.
International cooperation and regulation is the only way to reduce those CO2 emissions.
Politicians are just trying to convince you that you can change the world, so they don't have do something that upsets their donors. Everyone can do something, but it won't help enough.
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Humans are arrogant. They believe they are killing the planet. When in actuality we are only killing ourselves. The planet will still be here.
Unless you believe we as a species are worth saving. Seeing all the hatred and other negative qualities on view in the last administration makes me wonder if we are. But I am still hopeful for a positive change.
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