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Democrats always critical of decisions others make.. but have NOTHING when they have to make them... WEAK cunts and losers.
Does he even know what day it is??
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Fewer immigrant workers are coming to fill key jobs. That has slowed the U.S. economy
Saggy Granny logic.. she is as dumb as Joe Biden. Senile rats
We will see.
The link above clearly indicates that the added immigrants from the last 12 months have not improved anything.
Um some more good folks in florida.I always thought florida was fully of yankees!
The second story on the page is the 1 of more intrest,the teen was knowledgeable with the gun and protected his mother.
In Philadelphia, a suspect attempting to rob a pizza shop was shot by a 14-year-old boy. The incident occurred at approximately 10 p.m. on December 9 at a local pizzeri
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1 problem that happens after a disaster like this is looting and gawking. While I was working there was a couple times we would have tornados come thru and we would close the roads off to the public as to keep gawkers out of the way of cleanup and rescue.
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The media just keeps flashing the race card because it is profitable.
minimum of 30 years is to long.10 is plenty,and the guy that filmed it should not be given near that much. Without his video,there would not have been as much evidence avaliable.
Nobody should kill.
People should respect life because life on Earth, as we know it, is probably unique I'm the universe. Killing is not just a bad thing, it's doing a big damage to the whole universe. Intentional killing, as in this case, is the worst. Whoever kills intentionally should be made to regret and should not be considered as a human being.
are happening every day. The difference between those murders and this one is
that the ONLY reason for this murder was racism. That probably happens more often, but somehow the media found this particular racist murder very interesting.
It's not like this murder provokes any ideas from politicians to do something about racism. And whenever some lunatic kills a bunch of people with military weapons,
it doesn't provoke any action on preventing lunatics the access to military weapons.
You all follow or reject the news for a while, scream about it or get bored with it,
but nobody does anything and the problem continues.
went looking for trouble, killed 2 protesters and wounded another and the whole right-wing threats him like a hero. In my book, if you go out looking for trouble
and you find it, it's not self defense.
But in the mind of a right-winger, looking for trouble is a warrant to BE killed,
especially for black people. Both principles are pro death. How is that strange?
You need to go research that situation instead of painting it with a broad brush.
The prosecutor was useless too, his job was to immediately challenge the judge.
If I was the prosecutor, I would appeal.
And a mother who lets her 17 year old son go to a protest/riot with an AR-15 is also complicit.
Biden calling him a "white supremist" was not smart. It digresses the discussion
to terminology.
Peaceful protest my ass. those people have evil intentions,hence the reason there was calls for help for securing bussiness's and private property.
As a side note, 1 of the rioters killed raped 5 young boys, multilabel times. Far as I am concerned, he got much less than he deserved dying on the asphalt.
Ever seen protests of white supremacists?
....more than one gun, I tell you. (per protester)
When there are legitimate causes to protest for, it sadly also attracts vandals.
There are daily protests against the Covid measures here. I don't agree with them, but I agree with their right to protest. Most of those protests are peaceful, but it escalates almost weakly. Massive fights break out between the protesters and the police. Always at night, they start destroying police vehicles, lighting random cars on fire, breaking shop windows and looting the shops.
The protesters say to care about the owners of shops, pubs and restaurants having trouble to survive, because of the lockdowns, but then the protesters destroy many of those shops, pubs and restaurants, to give them the last push.
Because of the violence, my brother in law stopped joining those protests.
He says there are some crazy people in those crowds.
As long as there's a reason for protests, bad people use them to live out their violent tendencies. So better make sure the reasons are worth the trouble.
The reasons for the Covid measures are to prevent overburdening hospitals with Covid patients to breaking point, so people with Covid or cancer or hart failure can still get admitted to hospital and don't have to die (at home).
What are the reasons again, for not doing anything against police violence?
I'm glad I'm not there.
I'd be forced to have a gun too
but I can't possibly imagine myself
holding one. I'm happy that, for now,
where I live is very safe and nobody
has a gun. Basically, nothing happens.
It's quite cool this way.
Even if I somehow became very wealthy (which would be incredible luck, because I'm not prepared to either work very hard or just lazy and scam other people for it),
I would still prefer the higher tax burden over my shame towards my impoverished fellow countrymen. That would put a damper on me enjoying my money.
Besides that, there is a bit higher chance of getting murdered in the US, but I still wouldn't buy a gun. It's just a fantasy that it can ever safe your life. Best way to save your life, if the shit hits the fan, is getting the fuck out of there. If you start shooting, you will only kill other people who just pulled out their gun to protect themselves.
I can definitely see myself holding a gun or shooting a gun, because I already have and thought it was a lot of fun, as a sport. However I deal with danger in very objective way. Owning guns would only increase my personal risk, unless I lived
in a fucking war-zone.
I don't worry about small chances and only take preventative measures that lower my risks. I have fire detectors and dependable locks, which I close at night, I wear my seat-belt, I try to keep my cholesterol levels and blood pressure low and I took the Covid vaccine. That keeps the most real risks to a minimum. Besides that, I do some things to support pressure on politicians and informing the masses on climate change, because that will surely be increasingly irritating, maybe dangerous and probably costly, in the future. But since I'm not personally able of affecting any real change, I'm not going to ruin my life over it, for as long as that's possible. It would however be future suicide, for me to support politicians who deny the problem and delay measures to prevent the worst of it. I'm asking to be forced to pay for my zero carbon footprint, with everyone else, because me doing it alone doesn't change anything and only hurts me personally. That's just rational selfishness.
It's the only country in the world where there are more guns than people. Obviously, people are scared there and keep buying guns. They're shitting their pants because their neighbours have guns, the police have guns, children have guns, white supremacists have guns, black guys have guns, women have guns, lawyers have guns, butchers have guns, gardeners have guns, .... everyone has guns.
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You folks just stay where you are,there are enough naive wimps here in the US that depend on the police to much already for their safety .
There was a domestic dispute down the road a peice about a month ago, man beat his wife and she came to my house to call for help because he had busted her cell phone. She called a family member for help on the landline and I called 911 for a deputy to come out and check the situation as I knew there were 2 small kids in the house and I was more concerned about them than anything else. 2 deputys showed up, 18 minutes later. 18 minutes.
Now had there been a criminal trying to kill me, he would have had time to make a sandwich and raid the house and leave after doing it in 18 minutes.
You folks in those liberal paradises are so naive.I wont say stupid,you were just raised to trust in government to much. Indoctrinated I think they call it.
if 1 points it at the other, it is completely logical for the other 1 to react.But then only the 1 pointed AT is defending themselves, the pointer is guilty of a threat.
There are infinite situations possible that can be perceived as a threat, but aren't. The gun owner responds, starts shooting and kills innocent people.
Many people in your country are afraid of every Muslim carrying a bag.
Not strange when that bigotry gets enforced by politicians like Lauren Boebert, making a joke about Ilhan Omar, (not) carrying a bag pack
in an elevator.
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I can't tell you how often middle eastern people are killed for looking like
a terrorist, because they are not even specified as an ethnicity in the statistics. Are they under black, other or unknown?
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We have DAMN good reason to fear the 1 religion that's book clearly states convert or kill the infidels.
It was absolutely horrible, but it didn't make 1.6 billion Muslims terrorists.
Treating people as suspects, just because of their race or religion, that's discrimination by definition.
I'm sure all history combined, Christians have killed way more Muslims than Muslims killed Christians. Christians started the hostilities hundreds of years ago and it's not like they ever stopped.
In the historical contest of which race kills the most people of other races,
white people win easy.
There are at least 100 verses in the bible about killing non believers.
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I will admit, right after 9-11, if I saw someone that looked "muslim", I got as far away as I could. BUT even I have learned that not all of them think that way. BUT how the hell do you know which are which? A back pack or suit case or speaking in language no one else can understand to each other are suttle things that prompt fear. .
It's not a completely water tight system, but the ones who choose to come to the satanic western world tend to be not the worst ones. When we leave them in, we should just check if their not know terrorists and then keep an eye on them for a while. If they go make a life for themselves, they prove to be trustworthy after a while. If they are extremists and up to no good, that will be noticeable pretty soon. You have the biggest intelligence machine in the world. They should be able to pick up when a few of them are getting radicalized.
There is reason for your fear. When Muslims go extreme, they get themselves all over the news. That actually is the strategy of those extremists, because they want us to fear them. But that's not the people we let in. They are harmed by that extreme ideology too.
Other than that, the violent murders in your country are mostly committed by right wing extremists and other crazed lunatics.
Most often, many people had seen signs years leading up to it. Domestic violence is the largest predictive factor. But if you don't want background checks or other preventive measure, anyone can acquire the tools to rain death on crowds of people.
Don't you think those men were vetted to some degree before they were put in flight school?
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Many people are questioning why the hijackers weren't stopped. Some say the Bush administration let it happen, because it was the perfect reason for their war plans in the Middle East. I think that is a bit much, but they absolutely used it to the maximum potential.
The bigger question is; if they were so successful in using 9/11 to start the wars, why were they so completely incapable of achieving their goals? They say they wanted to bring piece and democracy to Iraq for starters and democratize more of the Middle East with that example.
How did that turn out? Perfect, if they wanted perpetual war!
The Bush family and Dick Cheney both had massive ties to the defense industry and surely made a lot of money from those wars. Would democracy in the Middle East have helped them?
I think they got exactly what they wanted. Big bucks for them and useful fear for the public. Or haven't you noticed?
I went as far as untangling a little lizard from a spider web last week.I don't know if he made it or not,he had it so tight around himself in 2 places I have to put him on the work bench and use tweezers and a exacto knife to get it off of him,he had fought trying to get out of it so long he was hardly moving when I found him. He ran off into the leaves but he was weak.
You know, it's the ammo that does the damage, right?
Or are you going to throw the damned things?
In Counter-Strike you can carry two guns.
One good sniper rifle and one good SMG is all that you need.
Or are you expecting an Alamo situation?
Real guns do more damage. I understand the appeal of them, but I don't like their potential. People are not allowed to own deadly poisons or the raw materials for bombs, but they are allowed to own guns, which are even more efficient murder tools.
My country does allow them too, but under much more strict regulation.
I would understand allowing ex-cops 'easy' access to guns (unless they
were fired/prosecuted for police violence), so they could continue to protect society. They should be more responsible than regular citizens. But an ex-soldier is a trained killer and possibly traumatized. I would regulate them even more strict than regular citizens. I guess you are pro gun ownership. But what level of regulation would you think is sensible?
If a guy was prosecuted for beating his wife into the hospital, should he
still be allowed to own a gun collection? What if people are not prosecuted yet, but family and friends ask the police to take their guns away, because they see them going insane. What should they do?
How do you draw the line between the 'good guy with a gun' and a 'bad guy with a gun'?
The guy that breaks down a door on a house with a gun drawn to hurt and kill a family,the homeowner pulling a gun and blowing his ass back out of the door,is the good guy.
Real simple really.
Hammers can hurt or kill. Just ask the guy I threw a 16 oz claw hammer at when I was in high school.He had picked on me for years and he said something I and threw the hammer at him. He tilted his head to his left as the hammer went INTO the cement block wall putting cement and mortar chunks in his ear and hair.Needless to say,he didn't mess with me any more.
Well, the large majority of American gun owners doesn't agree with you.
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NUT CASES< being turned loose to over medicate or undermedicated and harm others.
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And IF someone is concerned about a person having guns and making threats,law enforcement should take it seriously.
I just hope the Fbi having to pay out all this money MIGHT wake their ass's up next time someone trys to warn them about a punk wanting to hurt people.
Shame it cost lives to get the point accross the punk was a threat.HE COULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED.BUT No.
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Honestly, I think this was ALLOWED to happen to prompt more gun control.
BUT go thru some of these mind boggling charts. Doesn't look like the nether regions have much business judging other countrys crime rates.
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The Netherlands has the 53th crime rate in the world. Actually not that impressive, I agree. But still better than the US, which is 30th in the world. If guns prevented crime, than why is the US way up there in crime rate?
And why are you talking about crime. Sure, getting you bike stolen is annoying, but not as much as getting your life taken. Murder is what we were talking about. And in the US people are 5-6 times more likely to get murdered than in The Netherlands.
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Apart from some tiny countries, which had no murders at all in 2021, Japan does best on murder rate. They are about 3 times safer than the Netherlands. Actually pretty surprising, considering they have the Yakuza. Maybe they're just more efficient in hiding the bodies.
But in conclusion, the statistics show having easy access to guns doesn't lower your crime rate and it doesn't lower you murder rate. So you just have guns, because they make you FEEL safer. I would too, if I was they only one allowed to have them.
But what about the crime rate; might it be the police force? It surprised me a bit to find out we have some more people in law enforcement:
The Netherlands: 295 officers/100.000 inhabitants
The US: 239 officers/100.000 inhabitants
The US spends more of its GDP on Public Order & Safety, but has less actual police people.
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Actually, crime is very complicated. People go into crime for so many different reasons. It can be debt, greed, frustration, desperation, anger, mental illness, addictions, group pressure or just boredom. Certainly the risk of getting caught and severity of punishment play a role, but people also don't want to live in a police state. So you have to balance your freedom with the consequences of freedom. And that might actually be the bottom line of every discussion we've had.
I gave you the damn digits, facts not jibberish,and you think I AM the dumbass?
Sheesh,how did you survive in the real world???????
How about this logic; the more death and damage a problem causes,
the more action is required.
Lives lost of older people that have paid into social security means MORE MONEY that has been paid into social security that the person paying it can't draw, so that means more that can be handed out to illegals that have done nothing for it.Thus buying votes.
And if you look at the idea of Voter Replacement , older conservatives that die from the virus and more illegals that come into the US given voting rights and such gives the liberals a greater chance of maintaining control.
I could go on but you would still disagree thinking it is all fine for us to be locked out of the world for eternity eating delivered pizza
Liberals or Democrats are already the majority in this country. It’s the reason Republican legislators try to gerrymander voting districts.
You can go on but, I doubt any more will sound less asinine than what you just spouted.
Voter replacement.
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Yeah, not enough conservative news sources.
Using the latest school shooting in michigan. The neighbors warned authorities there were issues in that house long before the shooting. BUT as usual ,it is racist or profiling or some technicality that prevents law enforcement from going in,taking the people away to a place and checking them out and finding issues.
Why must people die before the law enforcement or others take action against potential threats???????
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