Definitely. At least this guy is more direct: he doesn't deny he's a troll. The other one though believes she's being a sophisticated, self-righteous, person. Bullshit.

You think Florida is a different country? We look at your area of the world as being poor, over-religious, sexually anal, and poorly educated. The Carolinas, Georgia, Tennessee, Louisiana, Kentucky, the Virginias, and Texas as being an aberration to the rest of the country. And, remember, there are TWO Floridas. South of Orlando is one area that is sophisticated, well educated, moderately well off, and progressive. North of Orlando, including Central Florida is the other area. This area is know for people to consider working in fast food establishments as a profession, leaving school by the tenth grade, girls getting pregnant by the age of 12 and marrying by the age of 14 without the benefit of a preacher or justice of the peace. Men drive around in 12 yr or older pickups with rifle racks on the rear window and a picture of a Confederate flag. Marlboros are the norm. This is also what we see and know about your neck of the woods and, personal experience living in Valdosta, Georgia.
Don't tell me what the truth is. You go out of your little part of the country and see for yourself and not through the eyes of Fox News

1)
I gave you the wrong impression and I was wrong. There's no law to prevent you from changing employers. However, in many jobs you have to sign an "exclusivity" agreement. The employer can sue you if you do. However, read this:
"Workers in states with right to work laws have a consistently lower quality of life than in other states—lower wages, higher poverty and infant mortality rates, less access to the health care they need and poorer education for their children."

2)
Why would belonging to a union eliminate pride? Electricians take pride in their wiring. Plumbers do too. Airline pilots are sticklers for perfect flying skills. Nurses are proud and give their lives to take care of their patients. Teachers dedicate long, unpaid, hours to help their students. And like them, there are thousands of examples where union workers take pride in their work.
As far as driving 1000's of jobs overseas, that was due to corporate greed. Wages are the biggest expense a business has and corporations don't care if they close a plant in the US and open it in another country. They don't care if employees don't have a living wage. Don't blame it on the unions.
As far as quality of work, are you seriously going to tell me Chink products are superior? When the big flight of corporations to countries with lower labor costs, Japanese products were the laughing stock of the world. And, tell me, why are foreign car manufacturers opening and operating plants in the US? Nostalgia?

3)
Tightening lug nuts or pushing a button is part of an "assembly line". You know what that is, right? It was invented by Henry Ford. That great humanitarian when it came to employees and a Nazi sympathizer. This is not lazyness. It's the job. If the job calls for pushing a button, do you advocate that worker should not aspire to make as much money as he can get? Remember, wages in a union shop are BY CONTRACT. Management signs of too.

4)
I'm happy for your friend. It took him a long time to kick the habit (very responsible of him) but, better late than never. My question is: what does this sob story have to do with unions? What does it have to do with what an employer is willing to put up with? What does an overachiever prove anyway? If he's being compensated/rewarded, that's good but it's not a reflection of the other employees. Surely you don't think people go to work because it makes them reach a state of ecstasy? BTW, every workplace has shirkers. If it's known they should be fired. No union will protect that type of employee.

6)
People who are greatful for their jobs? Fighter pilots, Leonel Messi, the King of England, others. I was always grateful for the working opportunities I had. Was I always happy? No, there's always something that can make work unpleasant. But, if you want to be a doctor or lawyer or fireman or garbage collector and achieve that goal, generally, you are grateful.

7)
Whatever this store owner/manager's experience with genz employees, it has nothing to do with unions, but, work at a Dollar Store is hardly the type of job you want to protect much. The pay is minimum, there are no benefits, and generally treated like a peon.


Japanese work culture is very different from ours. Still, it doesn't mean it will work in other countries. Except for Japan and the remnants of the Bushido code, I know of no other country that is like them. Not even China.

9) You have a skewed view of the American worker. This is copy/paste
"The U.S. is the hub of all innovative inventions. Most new technology was invented in America -- from personal computers, lasers, mobile phones, video games, photocopiers, and even the internet."
The great majority of American workers are competent and responsible.

10)
Pay differences create movement of employees. This is good. It makes employers realize what are acceptable wages.

People have to be grateful for their jobs and union workers are lazy?
It's like hearing the CEO of Exploitation Inc., but it is coming from someone
who hasn't benefited from that exploitative system at all.
Why is it always working people's fault?

I'm happy your friend is doing well. However, first he destroyed his life and at some point he has decided to get his life in order and is now motivated to do his job well.
But now he's shitting on people who are not as motivated? He has thrown 25 years of his life away. First he should take a hard look at himself, because he has not contributed to society for 25 years.

This socialist will tell you that people have the responsibility to contribute to society and develop themselves continuously. That does not mean being a good serf for the lords. With 'developing', I'm talking about improving knowledge and skills, to better serve society, before your right-wing mind thinks 'money'.

Flipping burgers for McDonald's doesn't serve society at all. It just creates more obesity, diabetes, pollution and a few even more wealthy people who keep this crony capitalism going. At least if McDonald's would pay a good wage to burger-flippers, they provide an income to otherwise useless people, so the state doesn't have to keep them alive with tax-money. In my ideal socialist system, I would help them to develop to serve society better or if they are incapable of it, at least find them some job providing healthy food. It's possible to provide tasty healthy food for that price, if your prime goal isn't to make a few wealthy people even wealthier.

Employers and politicians have 1000x the responsibility to contribute to society, because they have the power to actually do that, but they are also only thinking about money, in relation to developing themselves continuously.

Second, your friend should talk to his slacking colleagues and find out why they lost their motivation. As an experience expert, he should have insight what people need to motivate them. He could be a great supervisor, but if he has the attitude that you are describing, he will be horrible.